TREEING WALKER
NEWS AND VIEWS
PAST AND PRESENT
P. O. BOX 69
GRADYVILLE, PA 19039
Volume I No. 1
I will attempt to write a column about the Treeing Walker Breed maybe from a different perspective. Let me explain.
Years ago I was very involved with the Treeing Walker Breed. I ate, drunk, and slept the pedigrees and the breeding of this breed. I was weaned on this sport at a very young age and had a passion for this Treeing Walker Breed. I got out of the sport unplanned and unexpected. I had a chance to take a job that meant traveling in an area not suited for hounds or hunting. It was only going to be for 6 months, then another 6 months and another. And before I know it I am out of the sport.
If I had known it would turn out the way it did I wouldn't have taken the job. Through the years since I wasn't in areas where I could really have hounds or hunt them I didn't keep up with the sport. Didn't take the magazines or even stay in touch with people I knew. In my way of thinking I guess I thought if I wasn't going to be able to take part in the sport I loved so dearly it would be less painful not to keep up with what was happening in this sport I loved.
Every once in a while I would think I should at least take some of the magazines, but never did because I just felt like it would make me miss it even more. Well a couple of years ago I stopped moving with the job and actually got a place where I would be able to have a hound.
In January of 2008 I decided I would subscribe to the magazines and see what was happening in the world I loved so much. Little did I realize how much I missed the sport until I started getting those magazines again.
Shortly after I started getting the magazines and doing a little research on the Internet I realized if I was now just getting started and didn't know the history behind this sport and breed I could easily have a different understanding of history. With that in mind I have put up some websites where people who are interested in the history of the Treeing Walker Breed can go and research or just walk down memory lane.
More then enough about me for now. What would be some of the surprises a person in a 20-25 year time warp my experience in this sport?
One of my biggest surprises was that the same people were publishing American Cooner and Full Cry. Another was the direction Full Cry had taken. Back in the day American Cooner and Full Cry were THE magazines if you was interested in the sport of coon hunting.
One of the things I will do is comment on some of the changes in my view.
I remember when UKC decided to turn Bloodlines into Coonhound Bloodlines. For a while after this your licensed event had to be advertised in one of the THREE approved publications. After a while when CB's had not taken off as well as the ownership at the time had hoped, they made a very important change.
UKC in it's wisdom decided they would do away with clubs having to advertise in one of the three approved magazines and instead they would list all UKC events in their magazine for free and that would take care of the advertising requirement. Going back through the old magazines for my websites I come across things I haven't thought about and start thinking.
They said one of the reason's was to save clubs money but in looking back and thinking about it I believed I would have preferred the old owner ship to be more honest with their reasoning in my mind. "Our magazine is not catching on as well as we had hoped so by changing the advertising requirements we will be able to hurt our competition and maybe put one or both of them out of business." My thoughts but I wonder how much of that entered the decision.
One reason I am thinking of that now is that I notice the number of entries at UKC events and wonder how much of the low turn out has to do with the way events are advertised or not because of UKC requirements.
I believe clubs could help their turnouts with a small ad on the Cooner for your event. Maybe an ad for all of you UKC events for the year in one ad before your first event. I believe the increased entries will more then pay for the same ad.
From a person who was very involved and then 20 years later seeing it again for the first time I believe American Cooner has to be one of the most important magazines out there for our sport. Where else can all the different type of Kennel Club events be discussed so freely as in American Cooner for the Hound Breed.
Be it ACHA, NKC, AKC, UKC, or PKC you are welcome to report about it in American Cooner. Please consider this when you think about the magazine you should support.
In 1965 a man named John J. Monroe won the hunt that made people and dogs famous. The ACHA World Championship. That win brought the name John Monroe and the Finley River Chief strain of hounds to the attention of the coon hunting world. It was with great delight that I heard John had again won the ACHA World Championship and that he also handled the dog in winning this hunt 44 years later.
Thank about it guys, that is quite a feat. Have talked to John quite a few times and people are keeping him busy sending him congrats on the win and also hunting with Buck Creek Ike. I am running Ike's pedigree out and it is good to see that John won the hunt again that goes back to Finley River Chief so many times. Ike also goes back to Monroe's Finley River Joe a few times. I am sure John is proud of that fact.
I remember going up to John's place years ago when he was studding ole Joe. It was a night we shouldn't have even been in the woods. Cold, windy, snowing some and just not a good night. John insisted we take Joe out and after two coons treed I insisted we go back to the house. That was one of the things I always like about John, he would take you hunting with his stud dog.
Talked to Junior Lasseter the other day. He is working on a breeding program going back to his dad and his stock of hounds. Table Rock Flying Hawk was one of the finest looking hounds of his day. He was a grandson of Nelson's Butch. Hawk's grandmother was a half sister to Finley River Chief being out of Bixler's Supreme Sally. Junior has a litter of pups on the ground that he has a lot of hope for. They sure look nice from the pictures I have seen of them.
I hope to have a picture of a dog from the past in these columns. The one this month is Finley River Trap. A nice female that was bred by Robert Starke and sold to Thomas Wilbers. Tom and Bob both are proud of what Trap produced as well they should be. She produced many fine hounds. One of them being Finley River Zoom that John Monroe use to advertise at stud. Bob and Tom both are still raising these good blooded hounds.

GRAND CHAMPION FINLEY RIVER TRAP
The mother of many fine hounds!
Just got my Cooner today. Great job by Amy Kovac-Thomas on an article about John Monroe. Well done Amy.
I have rambled on enough this month.
Any old pictures or comments welcomed.
Breeding Today For Hounds Of Tomorrow
Don
TREEING WALKER
NEWS AND VIEWS
PAST AND PRESENT
P. O. BOX 69
GRADYVILLE, PA 19039
Volume I No. 2
After being out of the sport for so long, it had also been that long since I had read the rules. I was lucky enough to get a female that went back to my dogs 21 times. As I was looking for shows within a reasonable driving distance to start showing my puppy, I thought I would just crack out the UKC Rules for Bench Shows.
The show I was going to try and show her in she would have just turned 5 months old. Too my suprise in UKC you can no longer show a pup until they are 6 months of age. As I was going through some old magazines to try and get caught back up I noticed these two pups.
HONEY BEE a Grand Show Champion
at 4 months and 14 days of age.
CODY BOY a Grand Show Champion
at 5 months and 4 days of age.
Now I had good luck with pups years ago but this is still hard for me to wrap my mind around. If anyone could have a pup to do it, one of these guys would sure be one of them. Just the time frame, even if you are in a lot of areas where their might be a lof of Friday and Saturday Bench Shows seems amazing. You have to make a Champion and then show in the Champion shows. This is not making a Champion at 4 and 5 months of age but a Grand Champion.
I guess it was a little after this that the age restriction was put on the bench show. I don't know the politics behind it but can only imagine some people got their nose bent out of shape by getting beat by pups.
After I read the Current rules I thought the way it read I couldn't show my pup at under 6 months of age. Got a hold of Todd at UKC just to make sure and glad I did. Can you imagine driving a pretty good ways to show and when you try to enter your dog learn the dog is too young?
Raymond Lasseter Jr. had some bad news. Junior is line breeding back to his Hawk dog and had a litter of pups he really had high hopes for. Here is what Junior said happened.
"It is a sad day at Table Rock Kennel,
I got home from work last evening,our youngest grand daughter was waiting on me at the door as she is every evening to go ,as she says it "food the pups".
When we got to the pen my pick female from "RUBY and LUGER" was dead. They had gotten the cord pulled inside the dog house from the fixture for the heat light that I fixed for winter pups, all except the plug. She got over the cord then turned around and she twisted it so tight around her flank it stoped her circulation.
Freek accident but it hurts like crazy to lose her.
She was in my opinion the best pup I have raised since "MUNDO JR." was a pup. I wish all of you could have seen her, It would have done your heart good.
" Table Rock 10 Carot" you will be missed!!!!!
I think Junior may still have a pup or two out of this litter he is going to let go.
Junior can be contacted at jlasseter@netzero.net
Heard from Roger Wilson. Roger was good enough to get me some information on the ACHA Hunts and Shows. Roger is also one of the directors of ACHA and is working hard for the Association. He has a litter of pups he is excited about seeing what they will do.
Go back more on their pedigree and you will find a lot of Finley River Blood.
Roger can be contacted at progolfer26@yahoo.com
***************Cook's Speed
*************Brookshier's Uncle Lee
***************Brookshier's Backwater Kate
**********Brookshier's Finley River Driver
***************Bark Busting Bush Hog
*************Brookshier's Finley River Sally
***************Brookshier's Backwater Kate
Pups
***************Rock River Bang
*************Merchants Tree Basher
***************Scioto Lacey
**********Knock Out Cry Babe
***************Ball's Stylish Harry
*************Merchant's Lou
***************Night Heat Dixie 2

FINLEY RIVER DRIVER

KNOCK OUT CRY BABE
Speaking of Finley River talked to John Monroe the other day. His 2009 ACHA World Champion Buck Creek Ike is doing John a good job. He also bought a litter mate to Ike. Buck Creek Walter. Also got a letter from John the other day when he was sending me some information and he mentioned that his old Harry II dog is throwing some real nice hounds. He wrote that a son of Harry II had just won the Corn Field Classic.
I have been running out Buck Creek Ike's pedigree. Still have a ways to go before I am finished but for sure Ike goes back to Finley River Chief 33 times (I am sure it will be more as I follow a few more thread of his pedigree), Bixler's Supreme Sally 36 times and Shelter's Sonny Boy 50 times.
John can be contacted at 660-457-3658
JOHN J. MONROE
ROUTE 1 BOX 94
GLENWOOD, MO 63541
Had a good talk the other day with Dick Whitmore from
Tennessee. Dick has been a great friend of the site
and the effort to put out the history of our great breed.
He and I agree about what a real coonhound is and I
always enjoy hearing from Dick. He has hunted with a
lot of the greats of the breed.
Also had a couple of emails from Bill Crow of Crow's Boss fame. It was great hearing from Bill after all of these
years. He too has hunted with a lot of the greats and has a lot of history knowledge of a lot of these hounds.
Any old pictures are always welcomed. Also we welcome any old pedigrees. We always make copies and return the originals back to the owner. This helps us a great deal with the database of pedigrees we are putting together.
WHAT IS BEHIND A WORLD CHAMPION?
By Don Nicely

When Mike Miller was getting his pup ready for the Super Stakes the thought that this pup was going to become the youngest World Champion ever didn't cross his mind. You could say Mike has been hunting all his life. Starting at about 6 or 7 years old he would hit the woods with his father. Like a lot of us who got our start following behind our dad, he was lucky in that his father always tried to have a coon dog around to hunt. His father also handled some of the famous hounds of the day including the Redbone Famous Amos.
Mike was lucky like a few of us who had a father that not only coon hunted but also had a coon dog in their pen. He grew up not being a stranger to what it took for a dog to be what I like to call a real coon dog. He always liked the Walker hounds and has tried to always keep a good one around.
When Mike Miller went hunting with a puppy named (Gainsvill Creek) Tank he saw something he liked out of that puppy. He had the chance to buy him after hunting with him and bought the pup that would soon make history. Tank did things quick and young and right. He was entered in some PKC events at an age most people would just be thinking about starting their pup. The pup, Tank, started bringing the money home. He made a PKC Champion at a very young age.
Before the ACHA World Championship Mike's focus was getting Tank ready for the Super Stakes. Little did he realize when he decided to enter him in the ACHA World Hunt that things were going to change quickly. Kind of like Tank's rise in the Coon Hound world of competition hunting.
The ACHA World Championship has a history that no other registry can lay claim too. The competition hunts started with the American Coon Hunters Association (ACHA). If you study the history a little the impact the ACHA World Championship had on the coon hound was unmatched in its day. ACHA was the first World Championship and for the longest time the only World Championship.
Even today when there are numerous World Titles by different kennel clubs, ACHA stands out. ACHA could be called the true World Championship. How can you truly have a World Champion when some dogs aren't allowed to enter? With the ACHA World Hunt any hound can enter. They don't have to be registered with the ACHA offices. It is a true world championship open to all coon hounds to enter and compete in.
Many say that the ACHA World Hunt is one of the hardest to win. You can't reenter. You have to tree a coon to be able to advance and you have to recast some nights. It takes its toll on hound and handler. Gainsville Creek Tank didn't make a minus point until the last cast of the finals. In the 5 previous casts he didn't receive a minus point. Here is a 20 month old hound hunting in 5 casts some of them two casts in a night, treeing coon and making very few mistakes. Doing this at an age a lot of people would still call them a pup.
The emotions that were running through Mike Miller had to be many at the time because more things were happening then just the hunt. How does it feel to own a world champion and to sell a world champion at the same time? I can only imagine the feelings that would be going through someone. Before the hunt was over Mike Miller had agreed to sale Tank to Albert Clay.
Everyone that competes much has had the thought of wanting to own a world champion or win a world hunt. Here was the case of a person going to achieve that dream that so many of us have and at the same time stick to your word and sell that dog to another man.
As Mike now knows when anyone wins a world championship they will start getting phone calls from people they have never heard of. People calling to congratule you or to ask questions about your World Champion.
People want to know what the dog is out of etc. When you ask about the breeding of Gainsville Creek Tank a whole article could be written on his breeding and bloodlines. Tank is a very well bred hound but let me fast forward to the part the ACHA World Championship had on the bloodlines of Gainsvill Creek Tank.
I believe the ACHA World Championship may have had more of an impact on the Treeing Walker Breed then any of the other 5 breeds. The ACHA World Hunt was the Only World Championship for a long time. When a dog won the World Hunt interest was created in that dog. Through the early years when most of the registered dogs were single registered hounds a lot of crosses were made because of the ACHA World Hunt.
Let me deal with one thread that goes back to Tank numerous times. At least 15 times (but I haven't carried his pedigree out all the way yet). The first World Champion Treeing Walker was White River Boone who won it in 1949. He had a big impact on the breed and considering his early accidental death it could have been even greater.
The second Treeing Walker World Champion was The Incredible Rock who won the world title two years in a row, 1951 and 1952. A daughter of White River Boone, Nance's Jane, was bred to The Incredible Rock to produce Bunker Hill Queen. Queen produced some very nice hounds in her day. She was bred to Shetler's Sonny Boy to produce Carolina Kate.
The first world champion of a world champion was Merchant's Fanny who won the ACHA World Hunt in 1959. She was out of The Incredible Rock. Today it is hard maybe impossible (unless the dog is single registered) to find a World Champion that doesn't go back to past ACHA World Champions.
The first and only hound to win three ACHA World Champion titles was Merchant's Bawlie in 1955, 1956, and 1958. Merchant's Bawlie was bred to Merchant's Fanny a world champion out of a world champion to produce Bawlie's Rock.
Bawlie's Rock was bred to Carolina Kate to produce Tut's Tillie. Tillie was bred to 1963 ACHA World Champion House's Bawlie to produce Wright's Sue. Sue is considered to be the fountainhead of the Yadkin River strain of Treeing Walkers. Sue also had an important part in a dog called House's Lipper. Back in his day there was a lot of excitement and buzz about House's Lipper, not so much because of the winning he was doing ( he was doing a lot) but because of the pups he was producing.
Wright's Sue was bred to 1964 ACHA World Champion Stan's Sailor Jr. who was out of 1961 ACHA World Champion Stan's Sailor Boy. This cross produced 3 hounds that had a geat impact on the treeing walker breed. Shive's Goldhill Lou, Wright's Pistol Pete and Brack's Blaze.
When Blaze was bred to a Finley River Chief female that cross produced Yadkin River Tom who produced Kyles Rozell who produced Yadkin River Jeff when she was bred to Wright's Pistol Pete.
Shive's Goldhill Lou produced House's Queen Lou the mother of House's Lipper. If you will take the threads I just mentioned you will find what an impact they had on the walker breed. The fact is this wouldn't have gotten where it did if not for the ACHA World Championship. There is no doubt some of these crosses were made at the time because a dog had won the ACHA World Championship.
Tank's mother is Nite Champion Cypress Lake Stylish Maggie.

Owned by Flynn Welch and Wayne Albury, Maggie is still being hunted doing what she loves, treeing coon. Flynn owned her mother Grand Nite Champion Cypress Lake Stylish Bitty along with Joe Patterson. They bred Bitty to Grand Nite Champion Lipper's Stylish Cade to get Maggie. Flynn says that Maggie shines in the winter time when the leaves are off the tree. She is very accurate when she trees. Most of the time if she passes by a tree that another dog is treed on it will be slick. She also has a big male dog mouth and all of her pups have over powering mouths. Flynn and Wayne are proud of the type of pups that Maggie throws. As Mr. Welch said: "You can bet one thing for sure, Maggie will do her part."
Flynn Welch can be contacted at:
cypresslakekennels@yahoo.com
Tank's father is Grand Nite Champion Coma's Stylish Pride.

Pride is owned by Justin Bowden and Branden Dement. Actually when Pride was bred to Maggie to produce Tank Flynn Welch owned him.
Pride just turned 10 years of age but is still in good shape and still treeing a lot of coon. Justin says Tank is a good hunter but hunts with you and doesn't leave you and the country. Once he trees there is no leaving the tree. He has a big bawl mouth on track and bawls and chops on tree, mostly chop. Justin and Branden are very proud of the pups Pride is producing and are planning on studding him out and collecting him also.
Justin Bowden can be contacted at:
bowdenstorm@yahoo.com
Albert Clay like many of us started following these hounds behind his daddy. Albert was 5 years old when he started going hunting with his father. From that start he has been hunting all of his life. Mr. Clay has always tried to have a good coon hound at his place and most of the time has had one.
Being a fan of the Finley River hounds, Albert liked the type of hound that most of us that has been in the sport for a while would call a real coon hound. He has hunted with a lot of the name dogs of the past and still today hunts a dog that can compete. Just last year he placed two hounds in the Top Twenty of the World Hunt.
He had been hearing about a young dog from a number of people. This dog was young but would tree coon, was accurate and had so many of the things we look for in a young hound. During the World Hunt negotiations began on the purchase of Gainsville Creek Tank.
On the final night of the World Championship Albert Clay did something most of us wouldn't have had the guts to do. Two hours before the final cast Albert closed the deal on Tank by giving a World Championship price for a hound that wasn't a World Champion yet. True he had a 1 in 3 chance of winning it, but there was still that last cast that had to be hunted.
Albert showed his faith in what he had been told about the young hound called Tank and in his handler Mike Miller. He paid the price one would expect to have to pay for a World Champion.
Albert's plans for 2010 ACHA WORLD CHAMPION GAINSVILLE CREEK TANK are first and foremost he wants to hunt and enjoy his World Champion. Albert doesn't want to breed a lot of females to Tank because of his young age, but he would like to breed a few of the better females. He believes Tank will do his part in producing good hounds so he wants to get a few on the ground out of good females.
Albert plans on hunting Tank in some of the larger hunts and may even get Mike Miller to handle Tank in some of those hunts. He hasn't ruled out the possibility of trying to win another World Title. After all as I write this Tank hasn't even turned two years old yet.
Albert Clay can be contacted at:
abclay49@yahoo.com
423-994-4061
660-933-4711
865-992-9097
The author can be contacted at:
mysticmoondog@gmail.com
http://www.finleyriverchief.com